Tuesday, July 8, 2014

In Praise of Potted Pernetianas

Through most of my rose-growing adventures, I have selected roses based simply on how pretty they looked to me.

I have good rebloom on my Zéphirine Drouhin this year

I especially liked softer colors: cream, blush pink, apricot.

Chandos Beauty

 My husband told me repeatedly that in our brilliant tropical sun these colors became either a nondescript "off-white" or a not-too-clean looking "beige", and that we should find brighter colored roses to enjoy. However, I couldn't bring myself to buy any of the neon orange roses that I saw at garden centers, and I have never learned to photograph red, so we were at an impasse. Then I discovered Pernetianas.

Duquesa de Peñaranda

 I have seen their colors described as glowing coral, cantaloupe, Indian (or Turkey) red, terracotta, pomegranate, salmon-pink, peachy-orange and saffron gold to name just a few imaginative and, in my case, hunger-inducing epithets. I was sold.

My "sunshine" rose, 'Lykke Dazla', sometimes sold as Angèle Pernet

Despite these poetic descriptions, Pernetianas remain the least loved of all roses.

Soeur Thérèse

They are derided for vivid and sometimes clashing colors, fleeting blooms, lack of vigor and ill health, especially a propensity to blackspot inherited from Persian Yellow, the rose from which Pernetianas originated and that introduced flame colors into hybrid teas.

Heinrich Wendland

 Joseph Pernet-Ducher, the French rose breeder who came up with the first Persian Yellow hybrid, Soleil d'Or, was so proud of his accomplishment that he gave these early crosses the name "roses of Pernet", or Pernetianas.

Étoile de Feu

Yet not a decade passed since his death and the word Pernetiana became little more than a synonym for sickly roses.

Federico Casas

 One such rose, Dame Edith Helen, a 1926 hybrid tea whose only known parent was a hybrid perpetual and which has no flame colors however hard I squint at it, was called a Pernetiana simply because it tended to die back.

Dame Edith Helen

Gradually, through continuous breeding with hybrid teas, Pernetianas gained vigor but lost their distinct identity. It is the early ones, developed from the 1900s to the early 1930s, that are unique enough that they should probably preserve their Pernetiana designation rather than being lumped with the rest of hybrid teas.

Mme. Edouard Herriot

Even in my ideal climate (Pernetianas like dry heat) a lot of these roses, on their own roots, are not easy to grow.

A young Duquesa de Peñaranda. Shön Ingeborg in the back

I lost Girona and "Lundy's Lane Yellow" to crown gall and two Soleils d'Or to dieback (a fairly rare occurrence here). Many rust badly in spring. Several have refused to put on any size in the ground (Gruss an Coburg is a noteworthy exception).

Gruss an Coburg

 I have not yet found time to learn grafting, which would help with vigor, so I put what plants remained in big pots.

Some of my potted roses, from far right, Surville (bright pink), Intermezzo (mauve), Prinzessin Marie von Arenberg (white), Dame Edith Helen (pink), Cynthia Brooke (orange), Taischa (mauve)

 It seems to be working out well for me.

Étoile de Feu a year ago...

...and now

I water frequently, feed with a mix of organic and granular fertilizers, and replace the potting mix every few years.

A young plant of 'Lykke Dazla'

 Even with the best of care, bloom color is very variable ...,

Condesa de Sastago on a bright day...

...and on a softer colored day

...and at times, disappointing.

Heinrich Wendland on a good day...

... and on a bad day :)

Good or bad, blooms fade in less than half a day.

But I find the fade color of Mme. Edouard Herriot to be very pretty too

Why do I go to all the trouble? When grown well, early Pernetianas produce unique colors whose complexity remains unmatched even though over a century of rose breeding has passed since they first appeared.

My Vintage Gardens catalog describes Mme. Edouard Herriot as a "color break in her day" whose blooms range in color from "rich salmon to peach to pure pink with touches of yellow at the heart"

 Those shades of salmon-coral and old gold with vermilion veining are largely gone from modern roses...

'Old Korbel Gold'

 ...as are the charming little petals (called petaloids) curling inward toward the stamens.

'Lykke Dazla'

For me, Pernetianas are a constant challenge, frequently temperamental, sometimes disappointing, but more often than not, dazzling and deeply rewarding.

The rose sold as Surville, a seedling of Mme. Edouard Herriot

Étoile de Feu

Soeur Thérèse

Duquesa de Peñaranda
Native bees on 'Lykke Dazla'


  1. Masha, why do you do this? You love roses and challenge! Why do you think a grafting would help a rose keep healthy? I see these roses are not for me, I can't struggle for years when rose is sick, but the cold winter brings its law. Good luck!

  2. Whow Masha! absolutely stunning roses and pictures. Duquesa de Peñaranda is so elegant both in form and colour.
    Greetings from Barcelona

  3. Your rosepictures are wonderful! I did´nt even know the Pernetianas, so interesting. But all these roses you show us today are not on the market in our country. I think Etoile de Feu is the most beautiful. May be the Pernetianas do not like our wet and cold climate.

  4. Thank you!

    Nadezhda, grafting wouldn't help with foliar diseases, unfortunately. However, it would help make the plants bigger, bloom more, and hopefully help alleviate dieback and crown gall.

  5. Gosh, they seem like a real challenge to grow, but yours look fantastic. I have not come across the Pernetianas here in the UK, but it is fascinating to find out about them. I adore roses, but as soon as I hear that varieties are not very disease-resistant, I look elsewhere, but it seems that is when you get interested , and roll your sleeves up for that challenge !

  6. Jane, that's exactly it!

    A few of ours are imports from the UK, so if you search you can probably find them, and probably grafted too, which should make them easier to grow...

  7. Dear Masha, that is a wonderfully written post about Pertenianas. Still, I can't completely warm up to them because of the vibrant colors. At least I don't want to grow them in my own garden. But that is the good thing about roses, there are so many varieties that everyone can find the ones that he/she likes :-). In your post I love 'Chandos Beauty' and 'Intermezzo'. I am surprised that the latter does so well for you. I think, if I remember correctly, that it is also supposed to be a weak grower. Certainly not in your garden, though! Wishing you a nice rest of the week,

  8. Christina, I have heard the same thing and never even tried growing it in the ground. All my weakest roses go into permanent pots. Intermezzo is a good potted plant, not huge, well-foliated and nicely rounded in shape.

  9. Oh my! I'm with you on the favorite colors for Roses. I'm swooning over the dark peaches, salmons, and pinky corals. I wish I could grow more Roses in my shady garden. Maybe at the next house!

  10. Great post, great photos, Masha (I should add : as usual). Keep on posting...

  11. What gorgeous photos! I am a rose fanatic but I have never heard of these roses. I don' t think they are available in the UK possibly because they are better suited to a hot climate. What a lot of trouble you go to to look after them and keep them looking so good.

  12. Thanks for sharing your gorgeous garden with us. It's lovely to see your roses in full bloom while mine (in Australia) are looking sad and straggly and ready for pruning.

  13. What a stunning collection of roses! I don't think I could chose a favourite from them, they are all gorgeous. Are any of them highly scented? They must smell spectacular if they are! I love roses in my UK garden, but sadly don't have room for as many as you. So pleased to have found your blog.



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